This third edition of 'The Trial and Death of Socrates' presents G. M. A. Grube's distinguished translations, as revised by John Cooper for 'Plato, Complete Works'. A number of new or expanded footnotes are also included along with a Select Bibliography. John M. Cooper is Stuart Professor of Philosophy, Princeton University.
I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise. (查看原文)
"Now the hour to part has come. I go to die, you go to live. Which of us goes to the better lot is known to no one, except the god." Maybe Meletus was sent to contrive the death of Socrates and comple..."Now the hour to part has come. I go to die, you go to live. Which of us goes to the better lot is known to no one, except the god." Maybe Meletus was sent to contrive the death of Socrates and complete him.(展开)
At the end, when read that Socrates died by the poison, though I am not convinced by his or Plato's argument about the imperishalbe and immortable soul, I was moved by his calmness facing the death. He is right, the real courage comes from the complete and...
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I want to talk about the plague and the way it altered life in Athens, as well as, Pericles speech in which convinced Athens to stay the course. There are, I think three obvious tensions (that between human nature including some sense of self-interest AND ...
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...i you think they (my son)care for money or anything else more than they care for virtue, or if they think they are somebody when they are nobody. Reproach them as I reproach you, that they are worthy when they are not worthy of anything. If you do this, I shall have been justly treated by you, and my sons also. 原文41e-42a 我思考 为什么喜欢钱会被鄙视 这个问题很久了…………现在懂了……是喜欢...
2014-04-28 13:21
...i you think they (my son)care for money or anything else more than they care for virtue, or if they think they are somebody when they are nobody. Reproach them as I reproach you, that they are worthy when they are not worthy of anything. If you do this, I shall have been justly treated by you, and my sons also.引自 Apology
原文41e-42a
我思考 为什么喜欢钱会被鄙视 这个问题很久了…………现在懂了……是喜欢钱more than virtue才值得鄙视。
The Olympian victor makes you think yourself happy; I make you be happy. Besides, he does not need food, but I do. So if I must make a just assessment of what I deserve, I assess it as this: free meals in the Prytaneum. 原文26d-37a 这是苏格拉底的attempt at humor吗？
2014-04-28 12:47
The Olympian victor makes you think yourself happy; I make you be happy. Besides, he does not need food, but I do. So if I must make a just assessment of what I deserve, I assess it as this: free meals in the Prytaneum.引自 Apology
I have a divine or spiritual sigh....That is what has prevented me from taking part in public affairs... 原文31d 我没看懂上面这段什么意思。。。。 If I had long ago attempted to take part in politics, I should have died long ago....A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life is he is to survive for even a short time. 原文32a 啊？
2014-04-28 12:15
I have a divine or spiritual sigh....That is what has prevented me from taking part in public affairs...引自 Apology
原文31d
我没看懂上面这段什么意思。。。。
If I had long ago attempted to take part in politics, I should have died long ago....A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life is he is to survive for even a short time.引自 Apology
所以苏格拉底每天的工作就是让自以为高智商人士认识到自己的低智商！XD I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise. 原文是23b，这个版本的页码是26。
2014-04-27 13:49
所以苏格拉底每天的工作就是让自以为高智商人士认识到自己的低智商！XD
I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise.引自 Apology
所以苏格拉底每天的工作就是让自以为高智商人士认识到自己的低智商！XD I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise. 原文是23b，这个版本的页码是26。
2014-04-27 13:49
所以苏格拉底每天的工作就是让自以为高智商人士认识到自己的低智商！XD
I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise.引自 Apology
The Olympian victor makes you think yourself happy; I make you be happy. Besides, he does not need food, but I do. So if I must make a just assessment of what I deserve, I assess it as this: free meals in the Prytaneum. 原文26d-37a 这是苏格拉底的attempt at humor吗？
2014-04-28 12:47
The Olympian victor makes you think yourself happy; I make you be happy. Besides, he does not need food, but I do. So if I must make a just assessment of what I deserve, I assess it as this: free meals in the Prytaneum.引自 Apology
I have a divine or spiritual sigh....That is what has prevented me from taking part in public affairs... 原文31d 我没看懂上面这段什么意思。。。。 If I had long ago attempted to take part in politics, I should have died long ago....A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life is he is to survive for even a short time. 原文32a 啊？
2014-04-28 12:15
I have a divine or spiritual sigh....That is what has prevented me from taking part in public affairs...引自 Apology
原文31d
我没看懂上面这段什么意思。。。。
If I had long ago attempted to take part in politics, I should have died long ago....A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life is he is to survive for even a short time.引自 Apology
...i you think they (my son)care for money or anything else more than they care for virtue, or if they think they are somebody when they are nobody. Reproach them as I reproach you, that they are worthy when they are not worthy of anything. If you do this, I shall have been justly treated by you, and my sons also. 原文41e-42a 我思考 为什么喜欢钱会被鄙视 这个问题很久了…………现在懂了……是喜欢...
2014-04-28 13:21
...i you think they (my son)care for money or anything else more than they care for virtue, or if they think they are somebody when they are nobody. Reproach them as I reproach you, that they are worthy when they are not worthy of anything. If you do this, I shall have been justly treated by you, and my sons also.引自 Apology
原文41e-42a
我思考 为什么喜欢钱会被鄙视 这个问题很久了…………现在懂了……是喜欢钱more than virtue才值得鄙视。
The Olympian victor makes you think yourself happy; I make you be happy. Besides, he does not need food, but I do. So if I must make a just assessment of what I deserve, I assess it as this: free meals in the Prytaneum. 原文26d-37a 这是苏格拉底的attempt at humor吗？
2014-04-28 12:47
The Olympian victor makes you think yourself happy; I make you be happy. Besides, he does not need food, but I do. So if I must make a just assessment of what I deserve, I assess it as this: free meals in the Prytaneum.引自 Apology
I have a divine or spiritual sigh....That is what has prevented me from taking part in public affairs... 原文31d 我没看懂上面这段什么意思。。。。 If I had long ago attempted to take part in politics, I should have died long ago....A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life is he is to survive for even a short time. 原文32a 啊？
2014-04-28 12:15
I have a divine or spiritual sigh....That is what has prevented me from taking part in public affairs...引自 Apology
原文31d
我没看懂上面这段什么意思。。。。
If I had long ago attempted to take part in politics, I should have died long ago....A man who really fights for justice must lead a private, not a public, life is he is to survive for even a short time.引自 Apology
所以苏格拉底每天的工作就是让自以为高智商人士认识到自己的低智商！XD I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise. 原文是23b，这个版本的页码是26。
2014-04-27 13:49
所以苏格拉底每天的工作就是让自以为高智商人士认识到自己的低智商！XD
I go around seeking out anyone, citizen or stranger, whom I think wise. Then if I do not think he is, come to the assistance of the god and show him that he is not wise.引自 Apology
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Dover Publications1992版
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...i you think they (my son)care for money or anything else more than they care for virtue, or if they think they are somebody when they are nobody. Reproach them as I reproach you, that they are worthy when they are not worthy of anything. If you do this, I shall have been justly treated by you, and my sons also. 原文41e-42a 我思考 为什么喜欢钱会被鄙视 这个问题很久了…………现在懂了……是喜欢...
0 有用 Loopine 2010-07-19
overlaps with the loeb volume in large proportions, so I will count it read.
0 有用 Franny 2018-10-23
苏格拉底……伟大又有点可爱，明明很严肃很悲伤的文本，我怎么读着老能笑出声……
3 有用 吴明士 2014-04-28
读出了苏格拉底的中二感……
0 有用 motela 2016-06-17
不太懂......我不懂他最后为什么要死，明明曾经有可以改变体制（法律）的机会，为什么这么多年都没有改变...？感觉哲学书还是要联系历史来看啊。查了资料后感觉：苏格拉底如果没死，雅典还能多活一段时间
0 有用 里拉 2013-09-14
Socrates is not a humble man, huh?
0 有用 Sylvia 2021-02-05
sentence moving around, cannot stay put, thought experiment within a thought experiment
0 有用 素王 2021-01-20
"Now the hour to part has come. I go to die, you go to live. Which of us goes to the better lot is known to no one, except the god." Maybe Meletus was sent to contrive the death of Socrates and comple... "Now the hour to part has come. I go to die, you go to live. Which of us goes to the better lot is known to no one, except the god." Maybe Meletus was sent to contrive the death of Socrates and complete him. (展开)
0 有用 啦啦啦啦啦啦 2020-08-11
读来依旧震撼，苏格拉底用死亡展示了一个人精神信仰的强大。
0 有用 绘世图书馆 2020-02-29
Most inspiring book for my bachelor years
0 有用 sachroon 2019-11-29
重新看了一遍竟然不可避免地又喜欢上了socrates的一些点。即使conference上（三水的conference上很多人对苏格拉底特别讨厌……）有一些反对的意见，但是对他的爱恨交加的情绪一直来源于：这人和我太像了，有多厌恶自己就有多厌恶他。但转念一想，苏格拉底从来不会在conference或者多人debate的时候问一些涉及what层面的问题，因为在那样的情形下，大家都已经默认了“游戏规则”并... 重新看了一遍竟然不可避免地又喜欢上了socrates的一些点。即使conference上（三水的conference上很多人对苏格拉底特别讨厌……）有一些反对的意见，但是对他的爱恨交加的情绪一直来源于：这人和我太像了，有多厌恶自己就有多厌恶他。但转念一想，苏格拉底从来不会在conference或者多人debate的时候问一些涉及what层面的问题，因为在那样的情形下，大家都已经默认了“游戏规则”并在其上进行“游戏”，但是在私下两人交流的时候，有时候这些话题又十分重要。 (展开)