In the readition of the bestselling Chaos and A Brief History of Time, here is a science book with mainstream appeal. Proponents of artificial intelligence maintain that eventually a computer will be able to do everything a human mind can do, but Oxford University Professor of Mathematics Roger Penrose explains his view that there are facets of human thinking that can never be ...
In the readition of the bestselling Chaos and A Brief History of Time, here is a science book with mainstream appeal. Proponents of artificial intelligence maintain that eventually a computer will be able to do everything a human mind can do, but Oxford University Professor of Mathematics Roger Penrose explains his view that there are facets of human thinking that can never be emulated by a machine. Drawings throughout.
Some love it, some hate it, but The Emperor's New Mind, physicist Roger Penrose's 1989 treatise attacking the foundations of strong artificial intelligence, is crucial for anyone interested in the history of thinking about AI and consciousness. Part survey of modern physics, part exploration of the philosophy of mind, the book is not for casual readers--though it's not overly technical, it rarely pauses to let the reader catch a breath. The overview of relativity and quantum theory, written by a master, is priceless and uncontroversial. The exploration of consciousness and AI, though, is generally considered as resting on shakier ground.
Penrose claims that there is an intimate, perhaps unknowable relation between quantum effects and our thinking, and ultimately derives his anti-AI stance from his proposition that some, if not all, of our thinking is non-algorithmic. Of course, these days we believe that there are other avenues to AI than traditional algorithmic programming; while he has been accused of setting up straw robots to knock down, this accusation is unfair. Little was then known about the power of neural networks and behavior-based robotics to simulate (and, some would say, produce) intelligent problem-solving behavior. Whether these tools will lead to strong AI is ultimately a question of belief, not proof, and The Emperor's New Mind offers powerful arguments useful to believer and nonbeliever alike. --Rob Lightner
Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers ...Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers to possess human intelligence.Read by Blinkist.
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Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers ...Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers to possess human intelligence.Read by Blinkist.
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“皇帝新脑”的“门修斯” 作者：PLGN The Emperor's New Mind是牛津大学的Roger Penrose教授写的一本重要的学术专著，目的是参与心灵哲学问题的讨论。可是这本心灵哲学的专著一交到中国的出版社（湖南科学技术出版社）手里，居然变成了物理方面的科普读物，归入了向...
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读了三分之二终于读到最感兴趣的部分了… Where indeed does our own low entropy come from? The organization in our bodies comes from the food that we eat and the oxygen that we breathe. Often one hears it stated that we obtain energy from our intake of food and oxygen, but there is a clear sense in which that is not really correct. It is true that the food we consume does combine with this oxygen ...
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读了三分之二终于读到最感兴趣的部分了…
Where indeed does our own low entropy come from? The organization in our bodies comes from the food that we eat and the oxygen that we breathe. Often one hears it stated that we obtain energy from our intake of food and oxygen, but there is a clear sense in which that is not really correct. It is true that the food we consume does combine with this oxygen that we take into our bodies, and that this provides us with energy. But, Eor the most part. this energy leaves our bodies again, mainly in the form of heat. Since energy is conserved, and since the actual energy content of our bodies remains more-or-less constant throughout our adult lives, there is no need simply to add to the energy content of our bodies. 引自第412页
因为能量守恒，所以通常意义上的从食物和氧气中摄入能量的说法其实不准确。
However, we do need to replace the energy that we continually lose in the form of heat. Indeed, the more energetic that we are, the more energy we actually lose in this form. All this energy must be replaced. Heat is the most disordered form of energy that there is, i.e. it is the highest-entropy form of energy. We take in energy in a low-entropy form(food and oxygen)and we discard it in a high-entropy form (heat, carbon dioxide, excreta
).We need to gain energy from our environment, Since energy is conserved. But we are continually fighting against the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy is not conserved; it is increasing all the time To kep ourselves alive, we need to keep lowering the entropy that is within ourselves. We do this by feeding on the low-entropy combination of food and atmospheric oxygen, combining them within our bodies, and discarding the energy, that we would otherwise have gained, in a high-entropy form. 引自第413页
Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the...
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Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the state of the original – and, in this way, the ‘paradox’ of teleportation might be resolved.
I therefore suggest that, whereas unconscious actions of the brain are ones that proceed according to algorithmic processes, the action of consciousness is quite different, and it proceeds in a way that cannot be described by any algorithm. I have indicated that I believe consciousness to be closely associated with the sensing of necessary truths – and thereby achieving a direct contact with P...
2020-12-07 14:32:55
I therefore suggest that, whereas unconscious actions of the brain are ones that proceed according to algorithmic processes, the action of consciousness is quite different, and it proceeds in a way that cannot be described by any algorithm.I have indicated that I believe consciousness to be closely associated with the sensing of necessary truths – and thereby achieving a direct contact with Plato’s world of mathematical concepts.
What Gödel showed was that any such precise (‘formal’) mathematical system of axioms and rules of procedure whatever, provided that it is broad enough to contain descriptions of simple arithmetical propositions (such as ‘Fermat’s last theorem’, considered in Chapter 2) and provided that it is free from contradiction, must contain some statements which are neither provable nor disprovabl...
2020-11-29 18:06:54
What Gödel showed was that any such precise (‘formal’) mathematical system of axioms and rules of procedure whatever, provided that it is broad enough to contain descriptions of simple arithmetical propositions (such as ‘Fermat’s last theorem’, considered in Chapter 2) and provided that it is free from contradiction, must contain some statements which are neither provable nor disprovable by the means allowed within the system. The truth of such statements is thus ‘undecidable’ by the approved procedures.
读了三分之二终于读到最感兴趣的部分了… Where indeed does our own low entropy come from? The organization in our bodies comes from the food that we eat and the oxygen that we breathe. Often one hears it stated that we obtain energy from our intake of food and oxygen, but there is a clear sense in which that is not really correct. It is true that the food we consume does combine with this oxygen ...
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读了三分之二终于读到最感兴趣的部分了…
Where indeed does our own low entropy come from? The organization in our bodies comes from the food that we eat and the oxygen that we breathe. Often one hears it stated that we obtain energy from our intake of food and oxygen, but there is a clear sense in which that is not really correct. It is true that the food we consume does combine with this oxygen that we take into our bodies, and that this provides us with energy. But, Eor the most part. this energy leaves our bodies again, mainly in the form of heat. Since energy is conserved, and since the actual energy content of our bodies remains more-or-less constant throughout our adult lives, there is no need simply to add to the energy content of our bodies. 引自第412页
因为能量守恒，所以通常意义上的从食物和氧气中摄入能量的说法其实不准确。
However, we do need to replace the energy that we continually lose in the form of heat. Indeed, the more energetic that we are, the more energy we actually lose in this form. All this energy must be replaced. Heat is the most disordered form of energy that there is, i.e. it is the highest-entropy form of energy. We take in energy in a low-entropy form(food and oxygen)and we discard it in a high-entropy form (heat, carbon dioxide, excreta
).We need to gain energy from our environment, Since energy is conserved. But we are continually fighting against the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy is not conserved; it is increasing all the time To kep ourselves alive, we need to keep lowering the entropy that is within ourselves. We do this by feeding on the low-entropy combination of food and atmospheric oxygen, combining them within our bodies, and discarding the energy, that we would otherwise have gained, in a high-entropy form. 引自第413页
I therefore suggest that, whereas unconscious actions of the brain are ones that proceed according to algorithmic processes, the action of consciousness is quite different, and it proceeds in a way that cannot be described by any algorithm. I have indicated that I believe consciousness to be closely associated with the sensing of necessary truths – and thereby achieving a direct contact with P...
2020-12-07 14:32:55
I therefore suggest that, whereas unconscious actions of the brain are ones that proceed according to algorithmic processes, the action of consciousness is quite different, and it proceeds in a way that cannot be described by any algorithm.I have indicated that I believe consciousness to be closely associated with the sensing of necessary truths – and thereby achieving a direct contact with Plato’s world of mathematical concepts.
Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the...
2020-12-03 15:36:451人喜欢
Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the state of the original – and, in this way, the ‘paradox’ of teleportation might be resolved.
What Gödel showed was that any such precise (‘formal’) mathematical system of axioms and rules of procedure whatever, provided that it is broad enough to contain descriptions of simple arithmetical propositions (such as ‘Fermat’s last theorem’, considered in Chapter 2) and provided that it is free from contradiction, must contain some statements which are neither provable nor disprovabl...
2020-11-29 18:06:54
What Gödel showed was that any such precise (‘formal’) mathematical system of axioms and rules of procedure whatever, provided that it is broad enough to contain descriptions of simple arithmetical propositions (such as ‘Fermat’s last theorem’, considered in Chapter 2) and provided that it is free from contradiction, must contain some statements which are neither provable nor disprovable by the means allowed within the system. The truth of such statements is thus ‘undecidable’ by the approved procedures.
读了三分之二终于读到最感兴趣的部分了… Where indeed does our own low entropy come from? The organization in our bodies comes from the food that we eat and the oxygen that we breathe. Often one hears it stated that we obtain energy from our intake of food and oxygen, but there is a clear sense in which that is not really correct. It is true that the food we consume does combine with this oxygen ...
2021-02-16 00:55:411人喜欢
读了三分之二终于读到最感兴趣的部分了…
Where indeed does our own low entropy come from? The organization in our bodies comes from the food that we eat and the oxygen that we breathe. Often one hears it stated that we obtain energy from our intake of food and oxygen, but there is a clear sense in which that is not really correct. It is true that the food we consume does combine with this oxygen that we take into our bodies, and that this provides us with energy. But, Eor the most part. this energy leaves our bodies again, mainly in the form of heat. Since energy is conserved, and since the actual energy content of our bodies remains more-or-less constant throughout our adult lives, there is no need simply to add to the energy content of our bodies. 引自第412页
因为能量守恒，所以通常意义上的从食物和氧气中摄入能量的说法其实不准确。
However, we do need to replace the energy that we continually lose in the form of heat. Indeed, the more energetic that we are, the more energy we actually lose in this form. All this energy must be replaced. Heat is the most disordered form of energy that there is, i.e. it is the highest-entropy form of energy. We take in energy in a low-entropy form(food and oxygen)and we discard it in a high-entropy form (heat, carbon dioxide, excreta
).We need to gain energy from our environment, Since energy is conserved. But we are continually fighting against the second law of thermodynamics. Entropy is not conserved; it is increasing all the time To kep ourselves alive, we need to keep lowering the entropy that is within ourselves. We do this by feeding on the low-entropy combination of food and atmospheric oxygen, combining them within our bodies, and discarding the energy, that we would otherwise have gained, in a high-entropy form. 引自第413页
I therefore suggest that, whereas unconscious actions of the brain are ones that proceed according to algorithmic processes, the action of consciousness is quite different, and it proceeds in a way that cannot be described by any algorithm. I have indicated that I believe consciousness to be closely associated with the sensing of necessary truths – and thereby achieving a direct contact with P...
2020-12-07 14:32:55
I therefore suggest that, whereas unconscious actions of the brain are ones that proceed according to algorithmic processes, the action of consciousness is quite different, and it proceeds in a way that cannot be described by any algorithm.I have indicated that I believe consciousness to be closely associated with the sensing of necessary truths – and thereby achieving a direct contact with Plato’s world of mathematical concepts.
Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the...
2020-12-03 15:36:451人喜欢
Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the state of the original – and, in this way, the ‘paradox’ of teleportation might be resolved.
What Gödel showed was that any such precise (‘formal’) mathematical system of axioms and rules of procedure whatever, provided that it is broad enough to contain descriptions of simple arithmetical propositions (such as ‘Fermat’s last theorem’, considered in Chapter 2) and provided that it is free from contradiction, must contain some statements which are neither provable nor disprovabl...
2020-11-29 18:06:54
What Gödel showed was that any such precise (‘formal’) mathematical system of axioms and rules of procedure whatever, provided that it is broad enough to contain descriptions of simple arithmetical propositions (such as ‘Fermat’s last theorem’, considered in Chapter 2) and provided that it is free from contradiction, must contain some statements which are neither provable nor disprovable by the means allowed within the system. The truth of such statements is thus ‘undecidable’ by the approved procedures.
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Recall the ‘teleportation machine’ discussed in Chapter 1. This depended upon it being possible, in principle, to assemble a complete copy of a person’s body and brain on a distant planet. It is intriguing to speculate that a person’s ‘awareness’ may depend upon some aspect of a quantum state. If so, quantum theory would forbid us making a copy of this ‘awareness’ without destroying the...
1 有用 Vermouth 2018-05-02 01:09:00
论点非常小众，基本也没有什么论据可言，都是猜测。不过很开脑洞，还蛮好玩的
0 有用 Patrocinador 2021-08-22 07:08:06
Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers ... Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers to possess human intelligence.Read by Blinkist. (展开)
0 有用 叮铃铃 2018-01-20 05:56:56
今天Roger Penrose来我们学校给讲座啊！抱着书书要签名
7 有用 feanor 2012-12-07 00:16:06
原本有趣的話題，跨學科不同知識的介紹，都被作者毫不layman-friendly的寫法變成一次非常辛苦的閱讀過程，不管他人怎樣吹捧，Penrose不適合寫科普。
0 有用 奔跑的肉夹馍 2011-11-23 22:07:12
这本书超赞的 上数理逻辑课的刘西洋老师力荐
0 有用 Patrocinador 2021-08-22 07:08:06
Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers ... Until we fully understand quantum physics processes，just alike the formation of our consciousness characterized by indeterminism and uncertainty ,it’s unlikely that we’ll be able to program computers to possess human intelligence.Read by Blinkist. (展开)
0 有用 Sam 2021-04-17 10:48:38
用艰涩的物理细节掩盖跑题王的本质😑
1 有用 Vermouth 2018-05-02 01:09:00
论点非常小众，基本也没有什么论据可言，都是猜测。不过很开脑洞，还蛮好玩的
0 有用 叮铃铃 2018-01-20 05:56:56
今天Roger Penrose来我们学校给讲座啊！抱着书书要签名
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