Why are lovers quicker to forgive their partners for infidelity than for leaving dirty dishes in the sink? Why will sighted people pay more to avoid going blind than blind people will pay to regain their sight? Why do dining companions insist on ordering different meals instead of getting what they really want? Why do patients remember long medical procedures as being less pa...
Why are lovers quicker to forgive their partners for infidelity than for leaving dirty dishes in the sink? Why will sighted people pay more to avoid going blind than blind people will pay to regain their sight? Why do dining companions insist on ordering different meals instead of getting what they really want? Why do patients remember long medical procedures as being less painful than short ones? Why do home sellers demand prices they wouldn’t dream of paying if they were home buyers? Why are shoppers happier when they can’t get refunds? Why do pigeons seem to have such excellent aim; why can’t we remember one song while listening to another; and why does the line at the grocery store always slow down the moment we join it?
In this brilliant, witty, and accessible book, renowned Harvard psychologist Daniel Gilbert describes the foibles of imagination and illusions of foresight that cause each of us to misconceive our tomorrows and misestimate our satisfactions. Vividly bringing to life the latest scientific research in psychology, cognitive neuroscience, philosophy, and behavioral economics, Gilbert reveals what scientists have discovered about the uniquely human ability to imagine the future, and about our capacity to predict how much we will like it when we get there. With penetrating insight and sparkling prose, Gilbert explains why we seem to know so little about the hearts and minds of the people we are about to become.</p>
作者简介
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Daniel Gilbert is Harvard College Professor of Psychology at Harvard University. He has won numerous awards for his teaching and research, including the American Psychological Association's Distinguished Scientific Award for an Early Career Contribution to Psychology. His research has been covered by The New York Times Magazine, Forbes, Money, CNN, U.S. News & World Report, The...
Daniel Gilbert is Harvard College Professor of Psychology at Harvard University. He has won numerous awards for his teaching and research, including the American Psychological Association's Distinguished Scientific Award for an Early Career Contribution to Psychology. His research has been covered by The New York Times Magazine, Forbes, Money, CNN, U.S. News & World Report, The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal, Scientific American, Self, Men's Health, Redbook, Glamour, Psychology Today, and many others. His short stories have appeared in Amazing Stories and Asimov's Science Fiction Magazine, as well as other magazines and anthologies. He lives in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
有意思的是,这本书不是教你如何变得快乐, 而且探讨人们如何看待开心快乐这件事,一般来说,对于当下的心情,人们的描述还是相当准确的, 但接下来就谈到了过去和未来,人就开始使用MEMORY 和 IMAGINATION... 但它们是FLAWED AND BIASED...看这本书的时候深切体会到黑天鹅作者的关于QUOTE的说明,都是心理学家,这本书引用的很多研究跟THINKING , FAST AND...有意思的是,这本书不是教你如何变得快乐, 而且探讨人们如何看待开心快乐这件事,一般来说,对于当下的心情,人们的描述还是相当准确的, 但接下来就谈到了过去和未来,人就开始使用MEMORY 和 IMAGINATION... 但它们是FLAWED AND BIASED...看这本书的时候深切体会到黑天鹅作者的关于QUOTE的说明,都是心理学家,这本书引用的很多研究跟THINKING , FAST AND SLOW 相似,只是有的地方解释有点不同.(展开)
跟鸡汤毫无关系,科学地论证了为什么想象不靠谱,因为我们会填补空白,用当前去设想未来以及没有考虑到一旦事情发生,完全跟现实不一样,尤其是坏的事情。我们能够做到的是,"our great big brains do not allow us to go surefootedly into our futures, they at least allow us to understand what ma...跟鸡汤毫无关系,科学地论证了为什么想象不靠谱,因为我们会填补空白,用当前去设想未来以及没有考虑到一旦事情发生,完全跟现实不一样,尤其是坏的事情。我们能够做到的是,"our great big brains do not allow us to go surefootedly into our futures, they at least allow us to understand what makes us stumble."(展开)
首先,这不是一本温情脉脉救世主式的Self-help Book,Gilbert在前言里很明确地表示: This is not an instruction manual that will tell you anything useful about how to be happy. Those books are located in the self help section and once you've bought one, done ever...
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Each of us is trapped in a place, a time, and a circumstance, and our attempts to use our minds to transcend those boundaries are, more often than not, ineffective. WE think we are thinking outside the box only because we can't see how big the box really is. Imagination cannot easily transcent the boundaris of the present, and one reason for this is that it must borrow machinery that is owned b...
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Each of us is trapped in a place, a time, and a circumstance, and our attempts to use our minds to transcend those boundaries are, more often than not, ineffective. WE think we are thinking outside the box only because we can't see how big the box really is. Imagination cannot easily transcent the boundaris of the present, and one reason for this is that it must borrow machinery that is owned by perception.
The fact that those two processes must run on the same platform means that we are sometimes confused about which one is running. We assume that what we feel as we imagine the future is what we'll feel when we get there, but in face, what we feel as we imagine the future is often a response to what's happening in the present. The time-shared arrangement between perception and imagination is one of the causes of presentism, but it is not the only one. 引自第125页
========== #8-10 when you look at a photograph or someone’s face, you don’t see a big black mark where your blind spot is; you seem to see the whole image. This is because your brain fills in the missing details automatically. ========== #15-15 what our minds do is store only key details and emotions. ========== #19-20 although we consider our memories and our vision as accurate representatio...
2020-07-20 18:07:01
========== #8-10
when you look at a photograph or someone’s face, you don’t see a big black mark where your blind spot is; you seem to see the whole image. This is because your brain fills in the missing details automatically.
========== #15-15
what our minds do is store only key details and emotions.
========== #19-20
although we consider our memories and our vision as accurate representations of facts, they are in fact a mixture of reality and imagination.
========== #20-21
Our minds are capable of filling in missing details without us knowing about it.
========== #34-35
We trust that our predictions of the future are accurate – yet they are merely single scenarios in a sea of possibilities.
========== #41-43
Because your brain is much more concerned with the present moment than the future. This trait evolved because it is a necessity for survival: our ancestors had to focus on the sabre-toothed tiger stalking them in the present, rather than daydreaming about the future.
========== #49-49
Our current emotional state heavily influences how we think about the future – which leads to mistakes.
========== #61-62
We should value products based on how much satisfaction we get for our money – not how much their price has increased.
========== #68-69
Situations such as these show how we can’t trust our memories when making decisions.
========== #73-74
Since we focus on unique events rather than the whole experience, a few fantastic moments can make us remember the entire experience as being better than it was.
========== #76-76
We can’t trust our memories because we remember the strange and unique over the mundane and normal.
========== #82-83
wealth increases happiness when it gets people out of total poverty and into the middle class.
========== #87-87
A stable society depends on a strong economy to survive; it therefore needs people to strive to earn more money.
========== #95-96
You would probably sit there for hours on end, thinking about the pros and cons, mulling over the same thoughts again and again.
========== #98-100
our experiences are not as unique as we assume. In fact, the solutions to a great many of our concerns lie in the experiences of others. People react to things in pretty similar ways. Studies have shown that you can make accurate predictions about your feelings based on a report of someone who has been through the same experience.
========== #114-115
if you are hesitant about doing something, the best option is just to go for it. You can always learn from your mistakes, but you won’t learn anything from inaction.
========== #132-133
If you know you have the choice to exchange the watch, you’ll probably examine it more critically,
========== #133-133
more critically, looking for reasons why you should exchange it.
========== #137-138
We don’t understand that sometimes it is actually a lack of freedom that can make us happy. Although we value freedom and choice, we are often happier when we can’t change things.
========== #140-141
Having a secret admirer who drops off gifts at your doorstep can be flattering and exciting. But if you find out who it is, chances are that you will feel a little deflated.
========== #145-146
The longer we think about something, the longer our feelings toward it will last, thereby exaggerating those feelings further.
========== #154-157
You might wonder: How do these people manage to see everything in such a positive light? The reason is that they only see what they want to see; they surround themselves with information that backs up their positive worldview. To a certain extent, we all act in the same way. We carefully control the information we are exposed to, paying more attention to information we regard as positive and ignoring everything else.
========== #163-164
Your friends may not be as unbiased as you think: we unknowingly surround ourselves with those who support our views.
Just finish it. I thought I would again read something about how to be happy. But this book shows that our imagination about future is irreliable because of its inherent 3 shortcoming. Such as,our imagination tends to fill in and also leave something out,its tendency of projecting present feelings and experiences into the future imagination, its failure to recognize that things will look d...
2020-03-06 10:34:49
Just finish it. I thought I would again read something about how to be happy. But this book shows that our imagination about future is irreliable because of its inherent 3 shortcoming. Such as,our imagination tends to fill in and also leave something out,its tendency of projecting present feelings and experiences into the future imagination, its failure to recognize that things will look different. So live in the present is very important and other people's experience is also important...
Our belif in the variability of others and in the uniqueness of the self is especially powerful when it comes to emotion. Because we can feel our own emotions but must infer the emotions of others by watching their faces and listening to their voices, we often have the impression that others don't experience the same intensity of emotion that we do, which is why we expect others to recognize ou...
2018-01-16 09:46:02
Our belif in the variability of others and in the uniqueness of the self is especially powerful when it comes to emotion. Because we can feel our own emotions but must infer the emotions of others by watching their faces and listening to their voices, we often have the impression that others don't experience the same intensity of emotion that we do, which is why we expect others to recognize our feelings even when we can't recognize theirs.
This sense of emotional uniqueness starts early.
Our mythical belif in the variability and uniqueness of induviduals is the main reason why we refuse to use others as surrogates. After all, surrogation is only useful when we can count on a surrogate to react to an event roughly as we would, and if we believe that people's emotional reactions are more varied than they actually are, then surrogation will seem less useful to us than it actually is.
The irony, of course, is that surrogation is a cheap and effective way to predict one's future emotions, but because we don't realize just how similar we all are, we reject this reliable method and rely instead on our imaginations, as flawed and fallible as they may be.
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Like the hogwash that farmers feed their pigs, the hogwash that our friends and teachers and parents feed us is meant to make us happy; but unlike hogwash of the porcine variety, human hogwash does not always achieve its end.
Ideas can flourish if they preserve the social systems that allow them to be transmitted. These ideas must disguise themselves as prescriptions for indivudual happiness.
Rather than calculating utilities with mathematical precision, we simply step into tomorrow's shoes and see how well they fit. Our ability to project ourselves forward in time and experience events before they happen enables us to learn from mistakes without making them and to evaluate actions without taking them.
Foresight is a fragile talent that often leaves us squinting, straining to see what it would be like to have this, go ther,e or do that. But if our great big brains do not allow us to go surefootedly into our futures, they at least allow us to understand what makes us stumble.引自 Reporting Live from Tomorrow
在讲animal learning的课本上提及了这本书: “Habituation also determines how much we enjoy something. In his popular book, Stumbling on Happiness, Daniel Gilbert(2006) noted that 'Among life's crueliest truths is this one: Wonderful things are especially wonderful the first time they happen, but their wonderfulness wanes with repetition... ... When we have an experience -- hearing a particular s...
2017-11-15 05:52:57
在讲animal learning的课本上提及了这本书:
“Habituation also determines how much we enjoy something. In his popular book, Stumbling on Happiness, Daniel Gilbert(2006) noted that 'Among life's crueliest truths is this one: Wonderful things are especially wonderful the first time they happen, but their wonderfulness wanes with repetition... ... When we have an experience -- hearing a particular sonata, making love with a particular person, watching the sun set from a particular window with a particular person -- on successive occastions, we quickly begin to adapt to it, and the experience yields less pleasure each time' "
动物们聪明的、adaptive的learning by habituation能力 使它们无法长久地享受pleasureable things. They prefer variety -- variety of food, of scenes, and even of people.
"For at least a century, psychologist have assumed that terrible events must have a powerful, devastating, and enduing impact on those who experience them. This assumption has been deeply in our conventional wisdom that people who don't have dire reactions to events such as these are sometimes diagnosed as having a pathological condition known as "absent grief". But recent research suggests tha...
2013-07-09 19:26:59
"For at least a century, psychologist have assumed that terrible events must have a powerful, devastating, and enduing impact on those who experience them. This assumption has been deeply in our conventional wisdom that people who don't have dire reactions to events such as these are sometimes diagnosed as having a pathological condition known as "absent grief". But recent research suggests that the conventional wisdom is wrong, that the absence of grief is quite normal., and that rather than being the fragile flowers that a century of psychologists have made us out to be, most people are surprisingly resilient in the face of trauma. " As one group of researchers noted, "Resilience is often the most commonly observed outcome trajectory following exposure to a potentially traumatic event. If resilience is all around us, then why do most of us find it difficult to believe that we could ever consider a lifetime behind bars to be "a glorious experience"?The fact is that negative events do affect us, but they generally don't affect us as much or for as long as we expect them to.引自 Part 5 Rationalization
We have a large frontal lobe so that we can look into the future, we look into the future so that we can make predictions about it, we make predictions about it so that we can control it - but why do we want to control it at all? Why not jus tlet the future unfold as it will and experience it as it does? Why not be here now and there then? There are two answers. One surprisingly right answer is...
2018-01-15 05:19:42
We have a large frontal lobe so that we can look into the future, we look into the future so that we can make predictions about it, we make predictions about it so that we can control it - but why do we want to control it at all? Why not jus tlet the future unfold as it will and experience it as it does? Why not be here now and there then? There are two answers.
One surprisingly right answer is that people find it gratifying to exercise control - not just for the futures it buys them, but for the exercise itself. Being effective - chaning things, influencing things, making things happen 0 is one of the fundamental needs with which human brains seem to be naturally endowed, and much of our behavior from infancy onward is simply an expression of this penchant for control.
Our desire to control is powerful, and the feeling of being in conrol is so rewaring, that people often act as though they can control the uncontrollable.
We are the apes that learned to look forward because doing so enables us to shop among the many fates that might befall us and select the best one. Other animals must experience an event in order to learn about its pleasures and pains, but our pwoers of foresight allow us to imagine that hwich has not yet happned and hence spare ourselves the hard lessons of experience. 引自第20页
========== #8-10 when you look at a photograph or someone’s face, you don’t see a big black mark where your blind spot is; you seem to see the whole image. This is because your brain fills in the missing details automatically. ========== #15-15 what our minds do is store only key details and emotions. ========== #19-20 although we consider our memories and our vision as accurate representatio...
2020-07-20 18:07:01
========== #8-10
when you look at a photograph or someone’s face, you don’t see a big black mark where your blind spot is; you seem to see the whole image. This is because your brain fills in the missing details automatically.
========== #15-15
what our minds do is store only key details and emotions.
========== #19-20
although we consider our memories and our vision as accurate representations of facts, they are in fact a mixture of reality and imagination.
========== #20-21
Our minds are capable of filling in missing details without us knowing about it.
========== #34-35
We trust that our predictions of the future are accurate – yet they are merely single scenarios in a sea of possibilities.
========== #41-43
Because your brain is much more concerned with the present moment than the future. This trait evolved because it is a necessity for survival: our ancestors had to focus on the sabre-toothed tiger stalking them in the present, rather than daydreaming about the future.
========== #49-49
Our current emotional state heavily influences how we think about the future – which leads to mistakes.
========== #61-62
We should value products based on how much satisfaction we get for our money – not how much their price has increased.
========== #68-69
Situations such as these show how we can’t trust our memories when making decisions.
========== #73-74
Since we focus on unique events rather than the whole experience, a few fantastic moments can make us remember the entire experience as being better than it was.
========== #76-76
We can’t trust our memories because we remember the strange and unique over the mundane and normal.
========== #82-83
wealth increases happiness when it gets people out of total poverty and into the middle class.
========== #87-87
A stable society depends on a strong economy to survive; it therefore needs people to strive to earn more money.
========== #95-96
You would probably sit there for hours on end, thinking about the pros and cons, mulling over the same thoughts again and again.
========== #98-100
our experiences are not as unique as we assume. In fact, the solutions to a great many of our concerns lie in the experiences of others. People react to things in pretty similar ways. Studies have shown that you can make accurate predictions about your feelings based on a report of someone who has been through the same experience.
========== #114-115
if you are hesitant about doing something, the best option is just to go for it. You can always learn from your mistakes, but you won’t learn anything from inaction.
========== #132-133
If you know you have the choice to exchange the watch, you’ll probably examine it more critically,
========== #133-133
more critically, looking for reasons why you should exchange it.
========== #137-138
We don’t understand that sometimes it is actually a lack of freedom that can make us happy. Although we value freedom and choice, we are often happier when we can’t change things.
========== #140-141
Having a secret admirer who drops off gifts at your doorstep can be flattering and exciting. But if you find out who it is, chances are that you will feel a little deflated.
========== #145-146
The longer we think about something, the longer our feelings toward it will last, thereby exaggerating those feelings further.
========== #154-157
You might wonder: How do these people manage to see everything in such a positive light? The reason is that they only see what they want to see; they surround themselves with information that backs up their positive worldview. To a certain extent, we all act in the same way. We carefully control the information we are exposed to, paying more attention to information we regard as positive and ignoring everything else.
========== #163-164
Your friends may not be as unbiased as you think: we unknowingly surround ourselves with those who support our views.
Just finish it. I thought I would again read something about how to be happy. But this book shows that our imagination about future is irreliable because of its inherent 3 shortcoming. Such as,our imagination tends to fill in and also leave something out,its tendency of projecting present feelings and experiences into the future imagination, its failure to recognize that things will look d...
2020-03-06 10:34:49
Just finish it. I thought I would again read something about how to be happy. But this book shows that our imagination about future is irreliable because of its inherent 3 shortcoming. Such as,our imagination tends to fill in and also leave something out,its tendency of projecting present feelings and experiences into the future imagination, its failure to recognize that things will look different. So live in the present is very important and other people's experience is also important...
Our belif in the variability of others and in the uniqueness of the self is especially powerful when it comes to emotion. Because we can feel our own emotions but must infer the emotions of others by watching their faces and listening to their voices, we often have the impression that others don't experience the same intensity of emotion that we do, which is why we expect others to recognize ou...
2018-01-16 09:46:02
Our belif in the variability of others and in the uniqueness of the self is especially powerful when it comes to emotion. Because we can feel our own emotions but must infer the emotions of others by watching their faces and listening to their voices, we often have the impression that others don't experience the same intensity of emotion that we do, which is why we expect others to recognize our feelings even when we can't recognize theirs.
This sense of emotional uniqueness starts early.
Our mythical belif in the variability and uniqueness of induviduals is the main reason why we refuse to use others as surrogates. After all, surrogation is only useful when we can count on a surrogate to react to an event roughly as we would, and if we believe that people's emotional reactions are more varied than they actually are, then surrogation will seem less useful to us than it actually is.
The irony, of course, is that surrogation is a cheap and effective way to predict one's future emotions, but because we don't realize just how similar we all are, we reject this reliable method and rely instead on our imaginations, as flawed and fallible as they may be.
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Like the hogwash that farmers feed their pigs, the hogwash that our friends and teachers and parents feed us is meant to make us happy; but unlike hogwash of the porcine variety, human hogwash does not always achieve its end.
Ideas can flourish if they preserve the social systems that allow them to be transmitted. These ideas must disguise themselves as prescriptions for indivudual happiness.
Rather than calculating utilities with mathematical precision, we simply step into tomorrow's shoes and see how well they fit. Our ability to project ourselves forward in time and experience events before they happen enables us to learn from mistakes without making them and to evaluate actions without taking them.
Foresight is a fragile talent that often leaves us squinting, straining to see what it would be like to have this, go ther,e or do that. But if our great big brains do not allow us to go surefootedly into our futures, they at least allow us to understand what makes us stumble.引自 Reporting Live from Tomorrow
For millions of years, human beings have conquered their ignorance by dividing the labor of discovery and then communicating their discoveries to one another, which is why the average newspaper boy in Pittsburgh knows more about the univers than did Galileo, Aristotle, Leonardo, or any of those other guys who were so smart they only needed one name. Communication is a kind of "vicarious observa...
2018-01-16 04:05:21
For millions of years, human beings have conquered their ignorance by dividing the labor of discovery and then communicating their discoveries to one another, which is why the average newspaper boy in Pittsburgh knows more about the univers than did Galileo, Aristotle, Leonardo, or any of those other guys who were so smart they only needed one name.
Communication is a kind of "vicarious observation" that allows us to learn about the world without ever leaving the comfort of our Barcaloungers.
Why continue to make bad decisions?
1. A lot of the advice we receive from others is bad advice that we foolishly accept.
2. A lot of the advice we receive from others is good advice that we foolishly reject.
Super-replicators: Genes tend to be transmitted when they make us do thing that transmits their genes. Even bad genes can become super-replicators if they compensate for these costs by promoting their own means of transmission. The same logic can explain the transmission of beliefs. If a particular belief has some property that facilitates its own transmission, then that belief tends to be held by an increasing number of minds.
The production of wealth does not necessarily make individuals happy, but it does serve the needs of an economy, which serves the needs of a stable society, which serves as a network for the propagation of delusional beliefs about happiness and wealth. Economies thrive when individuals strive, but because individuals will only strive for their own happiness, it is essential that they mistakenly believe that producing and consuming are routes to personal well-being.
We are nodes in a social network that arises and falls by a logic of its own, which is why we continue to toil, continue to mate, and continue to be surprised when we do not experience all the joy we so gullibly anticipated.
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If you believe that people can generally say how they are feeling at the moment they are asked, then one way to make predictions about our own emotional futures is to find someone who is having the experience we are contemplating and ask them how they feel. 引自 Reporting Live From Tomorrow
1 有用 魏小钦 2015-04-17 09:39:06
有意思的是,这本书不是教你如何变得快乐, 而且探讨人们如何看待开心快乐这件事,一般来说,对于当下的心情,人们的描述还是相当准确的, 但接下来就谈到了过去和未来,人就开始使用MEMORY 和 IMAGINATION... 但它们是FLAWED AND BIASED...看这本书的时候深切体会到黑天鹅作者的关于QUOTE的说明,都是心理学家,这本书引用的很多研究跟THINKING , FAST AND... 有意思的是,这本书不是教你如何变得快乐, 而且探讨人们如何看待开心快乐这件事,一般来说,对于当下的心情,人们的描述还是相当准确的, 但接下来就谈到了过去和未来,人就开始使用MEMORY 和 IMAGINATION... 但它们是FLAWED AND BIASED...看这本书的时候深切体会到黑天鹅作者的关于QUOTE的说明,都是心理学家,这本书引用的很多研究跟THINKING , FAST AND SLOW 相似,只是有的地方解释有点不同. (展开)
0 有用 ZZ 2018-01-16 20:18:37
跟鸡汤毫无关系,科学地论证了为什么想象不靠谱,因为我们会填补空白,用当前去设想未来以及没有考虑到一旦事情发生,完全跟现实不一样,尤其是坏的事情。我们能够做到的是,"our great big brains do not allow us to go surefootedly into our futures, they at least allow us to understand what ma... 跟鸡汤毫无关系,科学地论证了为什么想象不靠谱,因为我们会填补空白,用当前去设想未来以及没有考虑到一旦事情发生,完全跟现实不一样,尤其是坏的事情。我们能够做到的是,"our great big brains do not allow us to go surefootedly into our futures, they at least allow us to understand what makes us stumble." (展开)
0 有用 太陽系美少女 2022-04-09 20:30:59
姜姜分享的illegal copy. 三人共讀我極快速讀完 I shouldn’t read lol this type of self-help book never match me lol
0 有用 kettye 2012-02-26 04:00:00
睿智的心理学书,所有都是曾经折磨你的问题,看着会上瘾
0 有用 lee 2013-09-03 19:35:28
这本书看了好几个月,中间经历了好多幸福和不幸福,还真算是stumble on happiness了。作者非常幽默,几乎每段一个笑点,把这本心理学的书写亮了。感兴趣的可以去看看他在TED上的演讲。
0 有用 太陽系美少女 2022-04-09 20:30:59
姜姜分享的illegal copy. 三人共讀我極快速讀完 I shouldn’t read lol this type of self-help book never match me lol
0 有用 kuer007 2022-01-24 21:53:52
非常容易读,逻辑清楚。perception,memory和imagination中,perception是三者中最聪敏的。Memory和imagination都会根据自身此刻所处的环境和此刻的感受来进行不同程度的”扭曲“。对未发生时间预测的感受并不可靠。
0 有用 似梦里泪暗滴 2022-01-21 23:50:48
很易读。由于已经读过不少心理学书籍,没有学到太多新东西。也如同他所说,他提出了问题,解释了问题根源,但一样没有答案。作者的类比和想象值得称赞。
0 有用 木风 2021-12-31 20:14:53
没讲具体样获得幸福,但是讲了一些我们之所以不幸福的可能原因,这也算是向前的一步了
0 有用 庆祝无意义 2021-09-01 22:57:00
我真是,,,人间清醒