RE:
The Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by H. D. P. Lee.
Harmondsworth : Penguin Books, 1955, 1956.
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Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by A. D. Lindsay.
London : Dent, ...RE:
The Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by H. D. P. Lee.
Harmondsworth : Penguin Books, 1955, 1956.
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Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by A. D. Lindsay.
London : Dent, 1935.(展开)
Briefly we may say that the forms are objects of knowledge (as opposed to opinion), are what is ultimately real (as opposed to what appears or seems), are standards or patterns to which different but ...Briefly we may say that the forms are objects of knowledge (as opposed to opinion), are what is ultimately real (as opposed to what appears or seems), are standards or patterns to which different but similar particulars approximate, and are the common factor in virtue of which we give groups of particular things a common name.(展开)
有意思的是虽然对对话不感兴趣但是对其内核的思想很感兴趣 去年年初开始读 今天读了还剩的最后几章 art is the representation of the life. 而life是unreal的 诗歌和艺术里面作为represent无法捕捉reality 那么对诗歌和艺术的赞颂和模仿是unreal的 无关真理的 洞穴的隐喻的理解是贯穿2023的主题 很高兴认识太阳 真理
虽说是两千多年前的哲学思想 有些机制随着社会日新月异地不断进化而被淘汰 但对于Plato构建的理想社会的根基和本质思想 这一系列的对话和哲学探究 放到现如今 还是很值得窥探深究的🧐 喜欢Justice这一章节的reasoning;喜欢Goodness is its own reward这一观点; 喜欢关于Philosopher的定义以及对于truth and wisdom的无止境的追求和探索;喜欢...虽说是两千多年前的哲学思想 有些机制随着社会日新月异地不断进化而被淘汰 但对于Plato构建的理想社会的根基和本质思想 这一系列的对话和哲学探究 放到现如今 还是很值得窥探深究的🧐 喜欢Justice这一章节的reasoning;喜欢Goodness is its own reward这一观点; 喜欢关于Philosopher的定义以及对于truth and wisdom的无止境的追求和探索;喜欢Knowledge(epistēmē)这整一个大概念及其分支;最后的The myth of Er也很引人深思… 这样的理想社会或许只是空想 but he who wishes can see it and found it in his own heart🏛 p.s翻译很赞 intro有点一般(展开)
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商务印书馆1986版
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华夏出版社2012版
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商务印书馆1986版
0 有用 Manwë 2022-08-12 22:17:28
未经省察的人生不值得过。看得出来柏拉图由于时代背景，对斯巴达的政制颇为向往，其中按照天赋的三等论、男女平等集中教育、儿童社会统一抚养、哲人王的观点都很有趣。最喜欢的两个片段：关于洞穴中的人闯出去后再回到洞穴；把潜心哲学的人的一生比作孤身一人处于风暴中的小屋。
0 有用 洵异 2010-04-04 17:07:29
RE: The Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by H. D. P. Lee. Harmondsworth : Penguin Books, 1955, 1956. & Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by A. D. Lindsay. London : Dent, ... RE: The Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by H. D. P. Lee. Harmondsworth : Penguin Books, 1955, 1956. & Republic / Plato ; translated with an introd. by A. D. Lindsay. London : Dent, 1935. (展开)
0 有用 Martin-CJ 2021-06-13 10:08:28
公正是底层和谐；自给不足各司其职产生国家；军队共产；优生优育；贤者政治；洞穴寓言；哲人王教育（基础、数理、智慧）；毁弃诗歌和艺术 （打工六载，终于囫囵吞枣拜读了西哲祖师的开宗立派之作。毕竟成书于BC 4世纪，很多观点已经证伪，频繁闪过斯巴达和元首的影子。回看卷首Karl Popper评论说是集权和XX主义的本源，也难怪了）
0 有用 Freiheit! 2023-01-15 08:06:55 美国
读了几十页节选（说来到现在才第一次正儿八经地读理想国
0 有用 The Chosen One 2019-10-29 20:41:25
第一次读这个出版社的书，感觉还不错。
0 有用 是咸鱼喔。 2024-02-23 01:08:25 爱尔兰
…….😇
0 有用 陈美芳˙Ꙫ˙ 2024-02-22 12:01:49 湖南
Briefly we may say that the forms are objects of knowledge (as opposed to opinion), are what is ultimately real (as opposed to what appears or seems), are standards or patterns to which different but ... Briefly we may say that the forms are objects of knowledge (as opposed to opinion), are what is ultimately real (as opposed to what appears or seems), are standards or patterns to which different but similar particulars approximate, and are the common factor in virtue of which we give groups of particular things a common name. (展开)
0 有用 Constance 2024-01-02 18:17:24 浙江
有意思的是虽然对对话不感兴趣但是对其内核的思想很感兴趣 去年年初开始读 今天读了还剩的最后几章 art is the representation of the life. 而life是unreal的 诗歌和艺术里面作为represent无法捕捉reality 那么对诗歌和艺术的赞颂和模仿是unreal的 无关真理的 洞穴的隐喻的理解是贯穿2023的主题 很高兴认识太阳 真理
0 有用 Freiheit! 2023-01-15 08:06:55 美国
读了几十页节选（说来到现在才第一次正儿八经地读理想国
1 有用 Hermione 2022-09-29 22:59:45 上海
虽说是两千多年前的哲学思想 有些机制随着社会日新月异地不断进化而被淘汰 但对于Plato构建的理想社会的根基和本质思想 这一系列的对话和哲学探究 放到现如今 还是很值得窥探深究的🧐 喜欢Justice这一章节的reasoning;喜欢Goodness is its own reward这一观点; 喜欢关于Philosopher的定义以及对于truth and wisdom的无止境的追求和探索;喜欢... 虽说是两千多年前的哲学思想 有些机制随着社会日新月异地不断进化而被淘汰 但对于Plato构建的理想社会的根基和本质思想 这一系列的对话和哲学探究 放到现如今 还是很值得窥探深究的🧐 喜欢Justice这一章节的reasoning;喜欢Goodness is its own reward这一观点; 喜欢关于Philosopher的定义以及对于truth and wisdom的无止境的追求和探索;喜欢Knowledge(epistēmē)这整一个大概念及其分支;最后的The myth of Er也很引人深思… 这样的理想社会或许只是空想 but he who wishes can see it and found it in his own heart🏛 p.s翻译很赞 intro有点一般 (展开)